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Date: 2008-03-22 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
I'm aghast. I'd love to know the story of how the Clinton campaign came to use that footage if it had been made for a totally different purpose, without getting clearance from the people who appeared in it.

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Date: 2008-03-22 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plumtreeblossom.livejournal.com
Well, stock footage is available for purchase to anyone. People who appear in it are one-time paid actors, not bound by any means to the product or cause the footage is used to promote, and also not bound to endorse it, and the footage/stills aren't for any one specific user. This specific footage has probably has any number of commercial users in the 8 years it has been available. Generally, footage such as what you saw here is bought for product sales commercials. The Clinton campaign bought usage of it -- nothing illegal in that, just ironic (and funny). They would have done better by shooting their own original footage.
Edited Date: 2008-03-22 02:17 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-03-22 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
I never realized that. So I could appear as an extra in a TV commercial for a product I like, and years later, someone else could use the same footage to sell a totally different product?

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Date: 2008-03-22 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plumtreeblossom.livejournal.com
If it's stock footage/photos you're apprearing in, then yes. Stock footage isn't generally shot for a specific client. It's shot for multiple clients to buy and use in their commercials and print ads. Here's a stock photo and footage site:

www.fotosearch.com

You or I could buy any footage or photo from that site and use it for whatever purpose we wished. Conversely, you or I could appear in that footage as actors or models, and per our contracts we would have no say in how it was used, nor any obligation to endorse the product or cause it was used to support.

Casey Knowles and her family had no idea what clients would buy the "sleeping girl" footage shot 8 years ago, but they were under no obligation to support or endorse those clients. And as we saw, Casey didn't. :-)

Edited Date: 2008-03-22 02:40 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-03-22 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
The news articles I've googled, such as this one, say the footage was originally shot for a railroad company commercial. I didn't realize such footage could be re-sold as stock. If I ever decide to be an extra, I should take a look at the agreement that I sign ;-)

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Date: 2008-03-22 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plumtreeblossom.livejournal.com
Yes, you should! :-)

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