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I stumbled across Joanna Newsom completely at random while reading the Wikipedia page of her boyfriend (actor Andy Samberg). At first listen I was both bewildered and riveted at the same time. I didn't want to keep listening but couldn't stop listening because there's something akin to magic about the bizarre music she makes. Honestly, her voice sounds like Bjork's irritable Siamese cat with an epic sinus infection. But juxtaposed against her gorgeous harp playing and her rich, quirky lyrics, it folds together into something that defies... pretty much everything.
There's something inspiring about an artist who can take every contemporary convention we have about what constitutes "good" singing and chuck them right out the window. Lots of composers with mediocre or poor singing voices collaborate with better voiced singers to bring their songs to life. But sometimes, someone wants to sing their own song regardless of what their voice sounds like, and if they have the right combination of confidence, stage presence and thick skin, they can do it, damn the torpedoes. Whether liked or disliked, the voice of this elven bardette certainly draws strong emotional reactions. If you click through to the comment thread on Youtube, there is passionate fighting between those who think her vocal cords should be slit and those who look up to her as a hero.
Anyway, listen if you can handle it, respect if you're inspired to.
There's something inspiring about an artist who can take every contemporary convention we have about what constitutes "good" singing and chuck them right out the window. Lots of composers with mediocre or poor singing voices collaborate with better voiced singers to bring their songs to life. But sometimes, someone wants to sing their own song regardless of what their voice sounds like, and if they have the right combination of confidence, stage presence and thick skin, they can do it, damn the torpedoes. Whether liked or disliked, the voice of this elven bardette certainly draws strong emotional reactions. If you click through to the comment thread on Youtube, there is passionate fighting between those who think her vocal cords should be slit and those who look up to her as a hero.
Anyway, listen if you can handle it, respect if you're inspired to.
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Date: 2009-11-16 07:36 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-11-16 08:24 pm (UTC)I was horror-struck at first listen, but I listened to a few more of her songs and now I'm kind of hooked.
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Date: 2009-11-16 07:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-11-16 08:50 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-11-18 05:30 am (UTC)I'm not sure it's GOOD for her voice but it does sound calculated and deliberate. She certainly has good pitch.
I didn't find it hard to listen to but I did have all the build-up of what to expect. I've heard MUCH MUCH MUCH worse singing (people who can't carry a tune in a bucket) from people who are "trained." I had a friend who got a degree in singing from Emmanuel and invited me to her final concert. I had heard her sing in high school and thought perhaps she had improved, so I invited Andy to come with me (this was about three years ago so we hadn't been dating long). It was a DISASTER. Her voice wasn't strong enough, the songs were poorly sung and she had no character or charisma to her singing. And we were sitting next to her former vocal coach so I didn't feel I could whisper to Andy about it. We left promptly at the end and walked down the hallway, at which point I said "I am SO SORRY" and Andy was glad that he didn't have to navigate complimenting her.
So, you can get a degree in singing and still be unbearable. Ms. Newsom is ten times more interesting and therefore enjoyable (on some level) to listen to. She has talent, regardless of whether I like what she's doing with it.
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Date: 2009-11-16 08:06 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-11-16 09:03 pm (UTC)And lucky her, to have landed Andy Samberg! He's dorkalicious.
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Date: 2009-11-17 12:10 am (UTC)Ditto on the appeal of quirky aesthetics. And ditto on the hots and dork-wuv for Mr. Samberg.
She's gonna kill her voice, over time, doing this.
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Date: 2009-11-16 08:19 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-11-16 09:06 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-11-16 09:58 pm (UTC)I hated it at first, but she sort of grew on me as it played on. to me she doesn't sound at all like Bjork, but I like Bjork. Her voice is odd, admittedly, but she has resonance and the ability to hit notes. A lot of Bjork's weirdness stems (I think) from a heavy accent and extremely unusual phrasing.
With this woman, I get the sense she isn't trying to sound good. To sing, at least in the way we think of it. Playing a harp doesn't make singing all that easy, either (forces a bad closed posture.) There's something very stylized here.
And this might get me banned, but she reminded me a bit of Billie Holiday - something in the way she approached notes and her phrasing.
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Date: 2009-11-16 10:01 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-11-16 10:26 pm (UTC)If I were a music reviewer, I would have a really hard time with this one and trying to describe/define her. On the one hand, her voice is essentially hideous, but that's not at all the same thing as "sucking." She doesn't suck, she just sounds so different that she needs to be judged by a whole 'nother set of measures than we would use for singers with more normal voices.
Anyway, good on her, I say. She probably takes a lot of shit for getting up there and doing her thing.
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Date: 2009-11-17 12:18 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-11-17 02:49 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-11-17 01:41 am (UTC)The thing I found least satisfying about her was that her diction is imprecise, which makes it very hard to figure out what she's saying. There might be some poetry there, but I couldn't tell. All in all, I wouldn't buy an album, but neither would I turn off the radio if she came on.
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Date: 2009-11-17 02:08 am (UTC)Also, for the record, I can't *stand* Dylan. I'll read his poetry all day long, but I'd rather put out my own ears with salad tongs than listen to him. The only time I've sat through his music was when Ani Difranco opened for him - and even that was in deference to the older gent who'd driven me to the concert.
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Date: 2009-11-19 03:37 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-11-17 01:30 pm (UTC)Bless Joanna. We need more of her and less Pro Tools enhanced "singers!!"
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Date: 2009-11-17 02:51 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-11-18 08:33 am (UTC)It sounds as though she's got a perfectly decent natural voice. The core of the voice sounds healthy and robust. And, as others have mentioned, she has no problems at all with pitch, which is often an indication that something is not right with the voice.
This is not good singing, of course. She is doing something quite artificial to create a vocal effect, but the actual voice is fine. It might not be a few years from now, though. What she's doing to it is taxing and could harm her voice. Such an unhealthy technique is fine for the occasional color or effect, but not for sustained periods of singing.
Catching up on the important stuff...
Date: 2009-11-19 12:28 am (UTC)